1 00:00:07,990 --> 00:00:05,749 good afternoon everyone purpose of this 2 00:00:10,310 --> 00:00:08,000 briefing is twofold 3 00:00:13,350 --> 00:00:10,320 while the launch team was meeting this 4 00:00:15,270 --> 00:00:13,360 afternoon to develop a go forward plan 5 00:00:17,430 --> 00:00:15,280 for space shuttle endeavor 6 00:00:20,790 --> 00:00:17,440 president obama was here 7 00:00:24,630 --> 00:00:20,800 and he has just left as we've seen 8 00:00:27,990 --> 00:00:24,640 so we will get a status on the visit of 9 00:00:29,669 --> 00:00:28,000 president obama as well as a status on 10 00:00:31,750 --> 00:00:29,679 space shuttle endeavor 11 00:00:33,030 --> 00:00:31,760 and here to do that for us 12 00:00:38,470 --> 00:00:33,040 is our 13 00:00:42,389 --> 00:00:40,470 the chairman of the mission management 14 00:00:44,630 --> 00:00:42,399 team and the manager of launch 15 00:00:49,110 --> 00:00:44,640 integration at kennedy space center for 16 00:00:53,590 --> 00:00:50,709 and our nasa space shuttle launch 17 00:00:55,270 --> 00:00:53,600 director mike leinbach good afternoon 18 00:00:57,189 --> 00:00:55,280 and we'll begin first with our center 19 00:00:59,910 --> 00:00:57,199 director bob cabana bob 20 00:01:01,590 --> 00:00:59,920 thanks george well obviously uh we would 21 00:01:02,549 --> 00:01:01,600 have very much loved to have seen 22 00:01:04,789 --> 00:01:02,559 endeavor 23 00:01:07,030 --> 00:01:04,799 lifting off this afternoon but that 24 00:01:08,149 --> 00:01:07,040 wasn't to be the case and 25 00:01:10,070 --> 00:01:08,159 you know i'd much rather be on the 26 00:01:12,390 --> 00:01:10,080 ground wishing i was flying than in the 27 00:01:13,350 --> 00:01:12,400 air wishing i was on the ground 28 00:01:16,310 --> 00:01:13,360 and 29 00:01:18,310 --> 00:01:16,320 safety always comes first 30 00:01:20,630 --> 00:01:18,320 these guys will talk about the issue 31 00:01:21,670 --> 00:01:20,640 that we had in our plan to troubleshoot 32 00:01:25,190 --> 00:01:21,680 it 33 00:01:27,190 --> 00:01:25,200 even though we scrubbed the president uh 34 00:01:29,350 --> 00:01:27,200 elected to continue with his visit to 35 00:01:31,749 --> 00:01:29,360 the kennedy space center with his family 36 00:01:33,590 --> 00:01:31,759 and i think he really enjoyed it and i 37 00:01:37,429 --> 00:01:33,600 know his family did 38 00:01:39,190 --> 00:01:37,439 he arrived on time got a great tour of 39 00:01:41,749 --> 00:01:39,200 atlantis over in the orbiter processing 40 00:01:44,550 --> 00:01:41,759 facility with uh janet cavandi 41 00:01:46,789 --> 00:01:44,560 uh i came over to the lcc and uh met 42 00:01:49,510 --> 00:01:46,799 with the crew the crew is in great 43 00:01:50,310 --> 00:01:49,520 spirits uh had a long conversation with 44 00:01:52,950 --> 00:01:50,320 them 45 00:01:54,950 --> 00:01:52,960 and uh then he met with the the crew 46 00:01:57,190 --> 00:01:54,960 families and uh talked to some folks 47 00:02:00,550 --> 00:01:57,200 along the way uh as he was uh touring 48 00:02:02,069 --> 00:02:00,560 the facilities so uh it was uh he was 49 00:02:03,990 --> 00:02:02,079 extremely supportive of what we were 50 00:02:05,510 --> 00:02:04,000 doing uh he obviously wished he'd seen a 51 00:02:08,389 --> 00:02:05,520 launch too but 52 00:02:11,670 --> 00:02:08,399 he uh promised his support and told us 53 00:02:12,470 --> 00:02:11,680 to look to a good future so 54 00:02:14,150 --> 00:02:12,480 you know 55 00:02:16,309 --> 00:02:14,160 a lot of times we talk about this 56 00:02:18,390 --> 00:02:16,319 transition from space shuttle to the 57 00:02:20,309 --> 00:02:18,400 future and it's really difficult and he 58 00:02:23,430 --> 00:02:20,319 understands it's hard with folks that 59 00:02:25,350 --> 00:02:23,440 are losing their jobs but 60 00:02:27,990 --> 00:02:25,360 we're going to focus on doing 61 00:02:29,430 --> 00:02:28,000 bigger and better things and in order to 62 00:02:32,070 --> 00:02:29,440 work on a program that's going to take 63 00:02:33,670 --> 00:02:32,080 us beyond our home planet again 64 00:02:35,270 --> 00:02:33,680 unfortunately the shuttle's going to 65 00:02:37,110 --> 00:02:35,280 come to an end 66 00:02:39,270 --> 00:02:37,120 i think that 67 00:02:41,670 --> 00:02:39,280 we are going to have a good future as we 68 00:02:44,309 --> 00:02:41,680 enable commercial space and we build a 69 00:02:46,790 --> 00:02:44,319 large vehicle and a rocket that's going 70 00:02:48,070 --> 00:02:46,800 to take us beyond our home planet 71 00:02:49,910 --> 00:02:48,080 but 72 00:02:51,990 --> 00:02:49,920 you know we're going to make that happen 73 00:02:53,509 --> 00:02:52,000 it is going to to work and the reason 74 00:02:55,350 --> 00:02:53,519 it's going to work is because of the 75 00:02:56,550 --> 00:02:55,360 tremendously talented workforce that we 76 00:02:59,110 --> 00:02:56,560 have here at 77 00:03:00,470 --> 00:02:59,120 the kennedy space center and within nasa 78 00:03:01,990 --> 00:03:00,480 so 79 00:03:04,390 --> 00:03:02,000 i think it was great that he came down 80 00:03:05,750 --> 00:03:04,400 today i think the family really enjoyed 81 00:03:07,670 --> 00:03:05,760 the visit hopefully we can lure them 82 00:03:10,229 --> 00:03:07,680 back for another launch in the future at 83 00:03:12,710 --> 00:03:10,239 least get the family back here and when 84 00:03:15,589 --> 00:03:12,720 it's right we'll get endeavour off and 85 00:03:16,949 --> 00:03:15,599 hopefully that's not in the into distant 86 00:03:19,030 --> 00:03:16,959 future in the meantime the crew is 87 00:03:20,630 --> 00:03:19,040 staying in quarantine and they'll be 88 00:03:22,470 --> 00:03:20,640 occupied here for the 89 00:03:24,149 --> 00:03:22,480 the weekend and their families are going 90 00:03:25,750 --> 00:03:24,159 to stay with them and they'll have some 91 00:03:27,670 --> 00:03:25,760 time together too but 92 00:03:30,710 --> 00:03:27,680 we'll we'll fly when the time is right 93 00:03:33,190 --> 00:03:30,720 and i'll let the two mikes cover that 94 00:03:34,550 --> 00:03:33,200 thanks paul well let's see 95 00:03:38,789 --> 00:03:34,560 uh 96 00:03:40,390 --> 00:03:38,799 amazing job by the team to first even 97 00:03:43,190 --> 00:03:40,400 get us to the position to be ready to 98 00:03:45,350 --> 00:03:43,200 tank uh last night when we left 99 00:03:47,030 --> 00:03:45,360 uh the the weather front coming in was 100 00:03:48,949 --> 00:03:47,040 supposed to hit around 7 p.m it didn't 101 00:03:51,430 --> 00:03:48,959 hit till much later which really threw 102 00:03:53,270 --> 00:03:51,440 us a loop for retracting the rss i'll 103 00:03:54,949 --> 00:03:53,280 let mike go into the details but 104 00:03:57,030 --> 00:03:54,959 but his team did an amazing job of 105 00:03:59,509 --> 00:03:57,040 getting that done we i think we rotated 106 00:04:01,509 --> 00:03:59,519 the rss about five hours late but we had 107 00:04:03,509 --> 00:04:01,519 an on-time tanking this morning so the 108 00:04:05,670 --> 00:04:03,519 team did an amazing job of working ahead 109 00:04:07,190 --> 00:04:05,680 on what they could and and having a plan 110 00:04:08,869 --> 00:04:07,200 ready to execute as soon as the weather 111 00:04:10,630 --> 00:04:08,879 cleared up and they did just that a 112 00:04:12,710 --> 00:04:10,640 really great example of of what the the 113 00:04:14,390 --> 00:04:12,720 team here at kennedy can do 114 00:04:15,990 --> 00:04:14,400 once we got uh 115 00:04:17,349 --> 00:04:16,000 uh on console heard the weather briefing 116 00:04:19,749 --> 00:04:17,359 looked like a really good data tank so 117 00:04:21,110 --> 00:04:19,759 we we got started with that had a few uh 118 00:04:23,749 --> 00:04:21,120 little things just to keep us talking 119 00:04:25,430 --> 00:04:23,759 there was a leaky hydrogen fuel line on 120 00:04:27,350 --> 00:04:25,440 the mlp 121 00:04:28,629 --> 00:04:27,360 in the right ohms one of the regs was 122 00:04:30,950 --> 00:04:28,639 was running a little higher than it 123 00:04:32,950 --> 00:04:30,960 should so we hooked it up to a different 124 00:04:34,550 --> 00:04:32,960 tank to put some olig in there and bleed 125 00:04:38,310 --> 00:04:34,560 down that pressure 126 00:04:40,469 --> 00:04:38,320 and then we had the apu heater problem 127 00:04:43,270 --> 00:04:40,479 basically in in the apu system apu 128 00:04:44,550 --> 00:04:43,280 stands for auxiliary power unit it's the 129 00:04:46,230 --> 00:04:44,560 it's the system we use to generate 130 00:04:47,830 --> 00:04:46,240 hydraulic power so it burns off 131 00:04:49,350 --> 00:04:47,840 hydrazine 132 00:04:50,870 --> 00:04:49,360 spins a turbine which drives a pump 133 00:04:53,430 --> 00:04:50,880 which pumps hydraulic fluid around the 134 00:04:55,110 --> 00:04:53,440 orbiter we use that hydraulic fluid to 135 00:04:57,189 --> 00:04:55,120 throttle and gimbal the main engines 136 00:05:00,070 --> 00:04:57,199 move the aero surfaces everything you'd 137 00:05:02,710 --> 00:05:00,080 use hydraulic power for in an airplane 138 00:05:04,550 --> 00:05:02,720 a large airplane so we we had a problem 139 00:05:06,550 --> 00:05:04,560 in one of the heaters on the fuel line 140 00:05:07,830 --> 00:05:06,560 and the fuel is hydrazine and when you 141 00:05:09,270 --> 00:05:07,840 get in orbit 142 00:05:11,430 --> 00:05:09,280 if you can't keep the heater on that 143 00:05:13,590 --> 00:05:11,440 hydrogen can freeze up and when it 144 00:05:15,110 --> 00:05:13,600 freezes that line can get compacted and 145 00:05:17,029 --> 00:05:15,120 loaded up with a lot of hydrazine and 146 00:05:19,110 --> 00:05:17,039 when it thaws you're worried about a big 147 00:05:20,790 --> 00:05:19,120 pressure spike coming into the line as 148 00:05:22,150 --> 00:05:20,800 that hydrazine thaws 149 00:05:24,230 --> 00:05:22,160 and potentially rupturing the line and 150 00:05:25,430 --> 00:05:24,240 causing a leak leaking hydrazine is 151 00:05:26,790 --> 00:05:25,440 really bad because when you get back in 152 00:05:28,710 --> 00:05:26,800 the atmosphere it immediately catches on 153 00:05:30,629 --> 00:05:28,720 fire and would have a big problem so we 154 00:05:32,710 --> 00:05:30,639 don't want a fuel leak in our in the aft 155 00:05:34,150 --> 00:05:32,720 compartment of the orbiter 156 00:05:36,870 --> 00:05:34,160 this particular system there's two 157 00:05:39,430 --> 00:05:36,880 heaters on this apu-1 158 00:05:41,749 --> 00:05:39,440 both of them are required for operations 159 00:05:43,749 --> 00:05:41,759 uh so that we we do have the redundancy 160 00:05:45,189 --> 00:05:43,759 because if you did lose your last heater 161 00:05:47,670 --> 00:05:45,199 while you're in orbit you wouldn't 162 00:05:49,590 --> 00:05:47,680 necessarily have time to react 163 00:05:50,950 --> 00:05:49,600 the the loss of that system on orbit 164 00:05:52,390 --> 00:05:50,960 what we would do is 165 00:05:54,870 --> 00:05:52,400 had this problem occurred once we got in 166 00:05:56,629 --> 00:05:54,880 orbit we would have noticed it the crew 167 00:05:59,189 --> 00:05:56,639 would have evaluated and the ground 168 00:06:00,550 --> 00:05:59,199 control team would have evaluated the 169 00:06:02,950 --> 00:06:00,560 thermal response we might have been able 170 00:06:04,550 --> 00:06:02,960 to periodically run the apu to keep it 171 00:06:06,150 --> 00:06:04,560 warm 172 00:06:08,550 --> 00:06:06,160 kind of doubtful in the attitude that we 173 00:06:09,990 --> 00:06:08,560 get stuck within station because uh both 174 00:06:11,670 --> 00:06:10,000 of station's restrictions and shuttle's 175 00:06:13,350 --> 00:06:11,680 restrictions we can't really 176 00:06:15,029 --> 00:06:13,360 maneuver wherever we want to from an 177 00:06:16,629 --> 00:06:15,039 attitude and put the sun 178 00:06:18,230 --> 00:06:16,639 on the right spot so we probably would 179 00:06:19,590 --> 00:06:18,240 have burned that system off basically 180 00:06:21,590 --> 00:06:19,600 burned it to depletion got rid of all 181 00:06:23,830 --> 00:06:21,600 the hydrazine and therefore not worried 182 00:06:26,070 --> 00:06:23,840 about it loss of a single apu by itself 183 00:06:27,830 --> 00:06:26,080 on orbit is not an early mission 184 00:06:29,270 --> 00:06:27,840 termination that would have been an okay 185 00:06:31,430 --> 00:06:29,280 posture to be in for the mission had we 186 00:06:32,629 --> 00:06:31,440 lost an apu so had we not caught this 187 00:06:33,830 --> 00:06:32,639 pre-launch 188 00:06:35,909 --> 00:06:33,840 it would have been uh it would have been 189 00:06:37,749 --> 00:06:35,919 an okay uh day on or it wouldn't have 190 00:06:38,950 --> 00:06:37,759 been a bad day um but it's a really good 191 00:06:40,230 --> 00:06:38,960 thing we did catch it because that gives 192 00:06:42,710 --> 00:06:40,240 us the opportunity to now fix it and 193 00:06:44,550 --> 00:06:42,720 launch with uh with full-up redundancy 194 00:06:45,749 --> 00:06:44,560 um mike can talk to you about a little 195 00:06:47,350 --> 00:06:45,759 more about what signature we actually 196 00:06:48,390 --> 00:06:47,360 saw and what we're gonna now have to do 197 00:06:49,830 --> 00:06:48,400 to troubleshoot 198 00:06:52,469 --> 00:06:49,840 but it was a pretty pretty 199 00:06:54,710 --> 00:06:52,479 straightforward uh scrub today the team 200 00:06:56,070 --> 00:06:54,720 uh made a very good call 201 00:06:57,510 --> 00:06:56,080 we talked about it for about the right 202 00:06:58,629 --> 00:06:57,520 amount of time and then we talked a 203 00:07:00,309 --> 00:06:58,639 little bit more just to make sure we 204 00:07:01,830 --> 00:07:00,319 really did have all the 205 00:07:02,710 --> 00:07:01,840 all the right understanding of the 206 00:07:03,990 --> 00:07:02,720 system 207 00:07:05,670 --> 00:07:04,000 and more importantly to make sure while 208 00:07:07,589 --> 00:07:05,680 we were sitting there you almost get a 209 00:07:09,270 --> 00:07:07,599 kind of a free orbit checkout because 210 00:07:11,189 --> 00:07:09,280 you have that really cold hydrogen 211 00:07:12,710 --> 00:07:11,199 oxygen in the aft compartment chilling 212 00:07:14,550 --> 00:07:12,720 everything down so we really got to see 213 00:07:16,469 --> 00:07:14,560 how this heater performed and all its 214 00:07:17,670 --> 00:07:16,479 associated heaters uh we wanted to make 215 00:07:18,790 --> 00:07:17,680 sure before we started the drain that 216 00:07:20,150 --> 00:07:18,800 there weren't any other troubleshooting 217 00:07:22,309 --> 00:07:20,160 steps to take 218 00:07:25,189 --> 00:07:22,319 and we did that uh didn't have anything 219 00:07:26,550 --> 00:07:25,199 to do and so uh mike uh made that scrub 220 00:07:27,749 --> 00:07:26,560 call and it was it was a really good one 221 00:07:29,830 --> 00:07:27,759 at the right time 222 00:07:31,749 --> 00:07:29,840 um so now we're in a recovery plan i'll 223 00:07:33,830 --> 00:07:31,759 let mike talk to you about that plan 224 00:07:36,710 --> 00:07:33,840 um and what that means to us in terms of 225 00:07:38,150 --> 00:07:36,720 the range and the schedules um we look 226 00:07:40,790 --> 00:07:38,160 like we got a good shot to keep trying 227 00:07:42,469 --> 00:07:40,800 here uh and uh you know there's an atlas 228 00:07:43,670 --> 00:07:42,479 that's scheduled for launch right now on 229 00:07:45,270 --> 00:07:43,680 the sixth 230 00:07:47,350 --> 00:07:45,280 so our last possible launch attempt 231 00:07:49,430 --> 00:07:47,360 would be on wednesday the 4th in front 232 00:07:50,950 --> 00:07:49,440 of that atlas launch they look like 233 00:07:52,469 --> 00:07:50,960 they're still in good shape we'll 234 00:07:53,589 --> 00:07:52,479 obviously keep tabs on them as we go 235 00:07:54,950 --> 00:07:53,599 forward but 236 00:07:55,670 --> 00:07:54,960 if we had to go on the other side of 237 00:07:57,589 --> 00:07:55,680 them 238 00:07:59,670 --> 00:07:57,599 we'd come back probably around the 8th 239 00:08:02,070 --> 00:07:59,680 or 9th those aren't really good launch 240 00:08:03,909 --> 00:08:02,080 days from the station's perspective 241 00:08:06,390 --> 00:08:03,919 that would couple the shuttles undocking 242 00:08:07,749 --> 00:08:06,400 with the 25 soyuz undocking and we don't 243 00:08:09,749 --> 00:08:07,759 want those two events on top of each 244 00:08:11,990 --> 00:08:09,759 other this is a case where we can 245 00:08:13,589 --> 00:08:12,000 actually allow the 25 soyuz to undock 246 00:08:15,430 --> 00:08:13,599 while a shuttle is present we just can't 247 00:08:16,710 --> 00:08:15,440 do that on the same day so we'd have to 248 00:08:19,110 --> 00:08:16,720 wait a couple extra days we'd probably 249 00:08:20,390 --> 00:08:19,120 move to the ninth maybe even the 10th as 250 00:08:22,230 --> 00:08:20,400 our first launch attempt on the other 251 00:08:23,589 --> 00:08:22,240 side of atlas we're gonna have to go do 252 00:08:24,950 --> 00:08:23,599 some homework there and talk to the 253 00:08:26,550 --> 00:08:24,960 russians about exactly the right way to 254 00:08:27,909 --> 00:08:26,560 deconflict that but we're not going to 255 00:08:29,589 --> 00:08:27,919 do too much on that just yet because we 256 00:08:31,909 --> 00:08:29,599 think we still got a shot in front of 257 00:08:33,430 --> 00:08:31,919 atlas and with that i'll stop talking so 258 00:08:34,230 --> 00:08:33,440 mike can give you more of the details 259 00:08:35,350 --> 00:08:34,240 okay 260 00:08:36,550 --> 00:08:35,360 thanks mike 261 00:08:38,149 --> 00:08:36,560 well let's see the 262 00:08:39,589 --> 00:08:38,159 mike mentioned how well we did overnight 263 00:08:41,430 --> 00:08:39,599 the launch team did overnight getting 264 00:08:43,190 --> 00:08:41,440 recovered from the rotating service 265 00:08:45,030 --> 00:08:43,200 structure delay and that was outstanding 266 00:08:46,949 --> 00:08:45,040 effort to say it was four or five hours 267 00:08:48,470 --> 00:08:46,959 late probably doesn't sound like much to 268 00:08:50,949 --> 00:08:48,480 the folks in the room but i can tell you 269 00:08:52,470 --> 00:08:50,959 uh that it was an outstanding effort 270 00:08:55,110 --> 00:08:52,480 probably the latest we've ever rotated 271 00:08:56,790 --> 00:08:55,120 the rss and still got to tanking on time 272 00:08:58,550 --> 00:08:56,800 so tanking was going perfectly fine and 273 00:09:00,150 --> 00:08:58,560 we started talking about the apu issue 274 00:09:01,670 --> 00:09:00,160 at about nine o'clock this morning give 275 00:09:04,150 --> 00:09:01,680 or take a few minutes 276 00:09:06,470 --> 00:09:04,160 and what we saw was that when the fuel 277 00:09:08,389 --> 00:09:06,480 line chilled down because of the 278 00:09:10,790 --> 00:09:08,399 environment in the after the orbiter the 279 00:09:12,470 --> 00:09:10,800 thermostat that controls the heater 280 00:09:13,990 --> 00:09:12,480 didn't come on 281 00:09:15,509 --> 00:09:14,000 didn't command the heater to come on 282 00:09:17,829 --> 00:09:15,519 it's much like a thermostat in your home 283 00:09:20,070 --> 00:09:17,839 when it gets cold and you want the heat 284 00:09:21,269 --> 00:09:20,080 the thermostat kicks on the heater that 285 00:09:21,990 --> 00:09:21,279 didn't happen 286 00:09:23,990 --> 00:09:22,000 and 287 00:09:26,150 --> 00:09:24,000 there was wasn't much troubleshooting we 288 00:09:28,230 --> 00:09:26,160 could do while we were still in in uh et 289 00:09:30,790 --> 00:09:28,240 load we had to get back into the crew 290 00:09:32,550 --> 00:09:30,800 module and uh and command some some uh 291 00:09:34,870 --> 00:09:32,560 the heater on from the from the crew 292 00:09:36,870 --> 00:09:34,880 module itself so we had to wait until we 293 00:09:38,949 --> 00:09:36,880 were done with et load to get the ground 294 00:09:40,310 --> 00:09:38,959 crews into the end of the ship and do 295 00:09:42,310 --> 00:09:40,320 that next part of the troubleshooting 296 00:09:44,870 --> 00:09:42,320 which was to command the heater on from 297 00:09:46,630 --> 00:09:44,880 the crew module and that didn't work and 298 00:09:48,310 --> 00:09:46,640 so at that point we knew we had a 299 00:09:49,670 --> 00:09:48,320 problem with that heater 300 00:09:52,230 --> 00:09:49,680 we weren't sure if it was a thermostat 301 00:09:54,150 --> 00:09:52,240 or the heater and uh but we knew we only 302 00:09:55,509 --> 00:09:54,160 had one of those two and we did some 303 00:09:57,030 --> 00:09:55,519 talking as mike said we talked for a 304 00:09:58,710 --> 00:09:57,040 couple of hours about could we get 305 00:10:00,790 --> 00:09:58,720 comfortable launching in a configuration 306 00:10:02,790 --> 00:10:00,800 like this and frankly this was a this 307 00:10:05,030 --> 00:10:02,800 was a pretty straightforward scrub uh 308 00:10:06,550 --> 00:10:05,040 declaration today you don't like lifting 309 00:10:07,670 --> 00:10:06,560 off of that redundancy especially in a 310 00:10:11,910 --> 00:10:07,680 critical sys 311 00:10:13,829 --> 00:10:11,920 so we declared the scrub at 1216 today 312 00:10:15,990 --> 00:10:13,839 the team immediately got into the drain 313 00:10:18,310 --> 00:10:16,000 operation of the external tank both 314 00:10:20,710 --> 00:10:18,320 commodities are off the tank now it 315 00:10:22,069 --> 00:10:20,720 takes us 24 hours to fully drain the 316 00:10:23,829 --> 00:10:22,079 tank there's there's a little bit of 317 00:10:25,509 --> 00:10:23,839 hydrogen left in the bottom of the tank 318 00:10:27,269 --> 00:10:25,519 that has to boil off and then we inert 319 00:10:29,269 --> 00:10:27,279 the tank with with helium 320 00:10:31,030 --> 00:10:29,279 that operation takes a full 24 hours 321 00:10:33,590 --> 00:10:31,040 from the scrub declaration and so 322 00:10:35,110 --> 00:10:33,600 tomorrow afternoon 323 00:10:36,630 --> 00:10:35,120 will be the first time we can start 324 00:10:38,310 --> 00:10:36,640 going into the after the orbiter which 325 00:10:40,389 --> 00:10:38,320 is where this fuel line is for the 326 00:10:41,829 --> 00:10:40,399 auxiliary power unit we have to go into 327 00:10:43,350 --> 00:10:41,839 the after the orbiter we have to get our 328 00:10:45,190 --> 00:10:43,360 hands on the fuel line we have to get 329 00:10:46,949 --> 00:10:45,200 our hands on the on the thermostat and 330 00:10:49,590 --> 00:10:46,959 the heater to really see what the 331 00:10:50,710 --> 00:10:49,600 problem is so after access is absolutely 332 00:10:52,550 --> 00:10:50,720 required 333 00:10:54,069 --> 00:10:52,560 that will happen tomorrow afternoon and 334 00:10:55,670 --> 00:10:54,079 maybe about dinner time tomorrow we'll 335 00:10:57,910 --> 00:10:55,680 start our troubleshooting the 336 00:10:59,829 --> 00:10:57,920 troubleshooting involves taking in a can 337 00:11:01,430 --> 00:10:59,839 of mist and spraying it on the on the 338 00:11:03,030 --> 00:11:01,440 thermostat to see if we can force a 339 00:11:04,630 --> 00:11:03,040 lower temperature on the thermostat and 340 00:11:05,910 --> 00:11:04,640 have it kick on lower than the 341 00:11:08,230 --> 00:11:05,920 temperatures we could have gotten in the 342 00:11:09,829 --> 00:11:08,240 ship today by ambient and if that works 343 00:11:11,829 --> 00:11:09,839 then we might have just a thermostat 344 00:11:13,829 --> 00:11:11,839 that's that's that's out of kilter and 345 00:11:15,030 --> 00:11:13,839 we could replace that thermostat and be 346 00:11:16,630 --> 00:11:15,040 in good shape 347 00:11:18,069 --> 00:11:16,640 if it's more than that then then it 348 00:11:19,750 --> 00:11:18,079 could be in a 349 00:11:21,670 --> 00:11:19,760 box called the lca the load control 350 00:11:24,790 --> 00:11:21,680 assembly which is essentially a box full 351 00:11:25,990 --> 00:11:24,800 of switches basically and uh if there's 352 00:11:27,509 --> 00:11:26,000 if there's something wrong in that box 353 00:11:29,430 --> 00:11:27,519 we have to change out that box that's a 354 00:11:31,269 --> 00:11:29,440 that's a much more extensive much more 355 00:11:33,110 --> 00:11:31,279 extensive job it would take us quite 356 00:11:34,870 --> 00:11:33,120 some time to do that 357 00:11:36,949 --> 00:11:34,880 but we're not there yet right now we 358 00:11:38,790 --> 00:11:36,959 think we can we can get in we will get 359 00:11:40,630 --> 00:11:38,800 in and do the check on the heater itself 360 00:11:42,790 --> 00:11:40,640 on the thermostat and the heater and if 361 00:11:45,110 --> 00:11:42,800 we can go down the easy path we're still 362 00:11:46,870 --> 00:11:45,120 on a track for monday morning 363 00:11:48,389 --> 00:11:46,880 this initial round of troubleshooting 364 00:11:51,030 --> 00:11:48,399 still supports a launch attempt monday 365 00:11:52,870 --> 00:11:51,040 morning so that's the path we're on now 366 00:11:53,910 --> 00:11:52,880 we have a i have a launch team meeting 367 00:11:55,590 --> 00:11:53,920 tomorrow evening to see how the 368 00:11:57,509 --> 00:11:55,600 troubleshooting is going and then 369 00:11:59,269 --> 00:11:57,519 another meeting sunday morning to see 370 00:12:00,150 --> 00:11:59,279 what what happened what transpired 371 00:12:01,910 --> 00:12:00,160 overnight 372 00:12:03,190 --> 00:12:01,920 saturday night with further 373 00:12:04,870 --> 00:12:03,200 troubleshooting 374 00:12:06,710 --> 00:12:04,880 so that's where we are today 375 00:12:08,790 --> 00:12:06,720 unfortunate for team endeavor and mark 376 00:12:10,550 --> 00:12:08,800 kelly and his crew i talked to mark when 377 00:12:12,310 --> 00:12:10,560 he was in the astro van it was kind of 378 00:12:13,750 --> 00:12:12,320 funny the way the way the timing worked 379 00:12:15,670 --> 00:12:13,760 out today the crew was ready to go out 380 00:12:16,790 --> 00:12:15,680 to the pad and we weren't ready yet to 381 00:12:18,949 --> 00:12:16,800 to scrub 382 00:12:20,629 --> 00:12:18,959 and so we we let them proceed to the pad 383 00:12:22,310 --> 00:12:20,639 and but then we held them at the at the 384 00:12:24,150 --> 00:12:22,320 launch control centers there was no 385 00:12:25,670 --> 00:12:24,160 reason to commit them inside the launch 386 00:12:27,190 --> 00:12:25,680 danger area 387 00:12:28,710 --> 00:12:27,200 and so i talked to him in in the astra 388 00:12:30,710 --> 00:12:28,720 van and told them what was going on and 389 00:12:32,310 --> 00:12:30,720 they understood and and and then shortly 390 00:12:34,230 --> 00:12:32,320 after that we scrubbed and they turned 391 00:12:36,150 --> 00:12:34,240 around and came back to to their crew 392 00:12:38,389 --> 00:12:36,160 quarters in the operations and control 393 00:12:40,389 --> 00:12:38,399 operations and checkout building so 394 00:12:42,150 --> 00:12:40,399 disappointing day for team endeavor and 395 00:12:43,509 --> 00:12:42,160 and the astronauts but 396 00:12:45,110 --> 00:12:43,519 as we always say in this business we 397 00:12:47,430 --> 00:12:45,120 will not fly this machine until it's 398 00:12:49,030 --> 00:12:47,440 ready and today it was not ready to go 399 00:12:50,310 --> 00:12:49,040 we hope we can get there by monday and 400 00:12:53,110 --> 00:12:50,320 we'll have more status for you as the 401 00:12:55,269 --> 00:12:53,120 weekend goes on that's it 402 00:12:57,110 --> 00:12:55,279 all right thank you mike and we'll take 403 00:12:58,949 --> 00:12:57,120 questions now please be sure to give 404 00:13:00,790 --> 00:12:58,959 your name and affiliation when we call 405 00:13:03,590 --> 00:13:00,800 on you and mike comes to you we'll start 406 00:13:05,190 --> 00:13:03,600 here in the front with marcia 407 00:13:07,110 --> 00:13:05,200 two quick questions 408 00:13:08,710 --> 00:13:07,120 first for mike lineback if it becomes 409 00:13:10,389 --> 00:13:08,720 more invasive are you even going to be 410 00:13:12,230 --> 00:13:10,399 able to make the first try out of the 411 00:13:15,190 --> 00:13:12,240 other side of the 412 00:13:16,870 --> 00:13:15,200 atlas cutout and for mr cabana just 413 00:13:19,030 --> 00:13:16,880 wondering if you had a chance to meet 414 00:13:20,870 --> 00:13:19,040 with congresswoman giffords and 415 00:13:22,230 --> 00:13:20,880 any interactions you may have had with 416 00:13:24,230 --> 00:13:22,240 her 417 00:13:25,910 --> 00:13:24,240 yeah so the first part you know we're 418 00:13:27,350 --> 00:13:25,920 we're set up to try for monday we can 419 00:13:29,269 --> 00:13:27,360 try all the way through wednesday and 420 00:13:30,790 --> 00:13:29,279 then we have to stand down for the atlas 421 00:13:32,550 --> 00:13:30,800 so we have a couple of days extra in 422 00:13:34,550 --> 00:13:32,560 there to play with to to do a little bit 423 00:13:36,310 --> 00:13:34,560 more troubleshooting 424 00:13:37,990 --> 00:13:36,320 so we haven't given up on launching 425 00:13:40,870 --> 00:13:38,000 before the apple certainly that's still 426 00:13:42,389 --> 00:13:40,880 a very viable option if if the if we 427 00:13:44,150 --> 00:13:42,399 have to change out that box the load 428 00:13:46,230 --> 00:13:44,160 control assembly then that's a that's a 429 00:13:48,629 --> 00:13:46,240 significant deal 430 00:13:50,629 --> 00:13:48,639 and the retest on that box is is quite 431 00:13:52,629 --> 00:13:50,639 extensive a full two days re-test on 432 00:13:54,550 --> 00:13:52,639 that on that box and so that would 433 00:13:55,910 --> 00:13:54,560 probably drive us to after after the 434 00:13:57,670 --> 00:13:55,920 atlas but we'll just have to see how 435 00:13:59,430 --> 00:13:57,680 that plays out 436 00:14:01,189 --> 00:13:59,440 and i did not get a chance to meet with 437 00:14:03,110 --> 00:14:01,199 gabby but i understand she's enjoying 438 00:14:05,829 --> 00:14:03,120 her time in florida and her time with 439 00:14:08,629 --> 00:14:05,839 mark and she's doing well 440 00:14:10,870 --> 00:14:08,639 okay right here 441 00:14:12,949 --> 00:14:10,880 john disney siriusxm satellite radio 442 00:14:14,550 --> 00:14:12,959 just from mike how quickly did you know 443 00:14:17,110 --> 00:14:14,560 this was going to be a showstopper given 444 00:14:18,629 --> 00:14:17,120 your knowledge of uh orbiter systems 445 00:14:20,550 --> 00:14:18,639 when you heard it was a heater problem 446 00:14:22,230 --> 00:14:20,560 on an apu did you know there's only a 447 00:14:23,670 --> 00:14:22,240 limited number of roads you could go 448 00:14:25,990 --> 00:14:23,680 down did you know pretty well right away 449 00:14:28,310 --> 00:14:26,000 you have to call it a day 450 00:14:29,910 --> 00:14:28,320 i'd say within the first i don't know 451 00:14:31,590 --> 00:14:29,920 maybe hour hour and a half or something 452 00:14:32,790 --> 00:14:31,600 like that you you never like to give up 453 00:14:34,470 --> 00:14:32,800 too early 454 00:14:35,990 --> 00:14:34,480 but also as you say you know we get to 455 00:14:37,509 --> 00:14:36,000 know these orbiters pretty well we get 456 00:14:39,110 --> 00:14:37,519 to know the systems we know what our 457 00:14:41,509 --> 00:14:39,120 launch commit criteria are we were in 458 00:14:43,910 --> 00:14:41,519 violation of the launch commit criteria 459 00:14:45,990 --> 00:14:43,920 and and uh while we were talking of a 460 00:14:47,430 --> 00:14:46,000 potential way out of the violation we 461 00:14:50,069 --> 00:14:47,440 just weren't going to get there after an 462 00:14:51,910 --> 00:14:50,079 hour and a half or two hours or so 463 00:14:53,750 --> 00:14:51,920 but we wanted to be fully convinced mike 464 00:14:56,230 --> 00:14:53,760 wanted to be fully convinced from the 465 00:14:58,949 --> 00:14:56,240 program perspective that we exhausted 466 00:15:00,150 --> 00:14:58,959 all possible options and that's why it 467 00:15:02,150 --> 00:15:00,160 took us a little time to get to the 468 00:15:03,670 --> 00:15:02,160 scrub declaration yeah one of the things 469 00:15:06,069 --> 00:15:03,680 you know the initial signature looked 470 00:15:07,430 --> 00:15:06,079 like just one element of a heater on a 471 00:15:08,550 --> 00:15:07,440 line that was failed and if that's the 472 00:15:10,550 --> 00:15:08,560 case 473 00:15:12,629 --> 00:15:10,560 the rest of that line can keep thermal 474 00:15:14,150 --> 00:15:12,639 mass we can actually use the attitude of 475 00:15:15,750 --> 00:15:14,160 the orbiter to keep the rest of that 476 00:15:17,350 --> 00:15:15,760 line warm so if that was the actual 477 00:15:19,590 --> 00:15:17,360 failure case we could probably work our 478 00:15:21,509 --> 00:15:19,600 way through that problem uh once we let 479 00:15:23,509 --> 00:15:21,519 it sit chilled down for a longer period 480 00:15:25,189 --> 00:15:23,519 of time we saw that it was actually in 481 00:15:26,790 --> 00:15:25,199 fact the entire string of heaters along 482 00:15:31,030 --> 00:15:26,800 that line that were gone and there 483 00:15:37,110 --> 00:15:33,910 okay right here in front 484 00:15:39,749 --> 00:15:37,120 randy siegel wstu radio mike 485 00:15:41,430 --> 00:15:39,759 the apu's on the other two 486 00:15:43,590 --> 00:15:41,440 were working properly there was no 487 00:15:45,189 --> 00:15:43,600 glitches nothing that showed anything so 488 00:15:46,550 --> 00:15:45,199 in any of the testing that's done you're 489 00:15:49,189 --> 00:15:46,560 basically just going to work on that one 490 00:15:50,790 --> 00:15:49,199 apu only that's the bad one making the 491 00:15:51,990 --> 00:15:50,800 assumption that the others are fine as 492 00:15:54,550 --> 00:15:52,000 they stand 493 00:15:56,389 --> 00:15:54,560 that's exactly right every other 494 00:15:58,069 --> 00:15:56,399 the other two apus and all their heaters 495 00:16:01,269 --> 00:15:58,079 were working perfectly fine so it's just 496 00:16:05,509 --> 00:16:03,430 okay let's come over here and pick up 497 00:16:07,829 --> 00:16:05,519 some right here 498 00:16:09,829 --> 00:16:07,839 hi mark kirkman interspace news a couple 499 00:16:12,150 --> 00:16:09,839 quick questions actually um first off 500 00:16:13,990 --> 00:16:12,160 are you tied to atlantis are we in that 501 00:16:16,710 --> 00:16:14,000 day for day trade-off in terms of uh 502 00:16:18,550 --> 00:16:16,720 hitting atlantis schedule and also i'm 503 00:16:20,230 --> 00:16:18,560 maybe confusing myself on systems 504 00:16:21,749 --> 00:16:20,240 knowledge here i thought your earlier 505 00:16:23,829 --> 00:16:21,759 discussions were saying that you had 506 00:16:25,590 --> 00:16:23,839 problems with both strings of heaters 507 00:16:27,509 --> 00:16:25,600 wouldn't that lead to 508 00:16:29,430 --> 00:16:27,519 not a single point failure or am i am i 509 00:16:30,550 --> 00:16:29,440 confused in what i heard earlier thanks 510 00:16:32,550 --> 00:16:30,560 let's see on the 511 00:16:35,110 --> 00:16:32,560 on the atlantis launch date 512 00:16:37,269 --> 00:16:35,120 they're not yet directly tied one to one 513 00:16:38,470 --> 00:16:37,279 i forget how much longer we go but we 514 00:16:39,670 --> 00:16:38,480 knew we could go to the other side of 515 00:16:41,269 --> 00:16:39,680 atlas 516 00:16:43,430 --> 00:16:41,279 and probably a week or two before we 517 00:16:45,829 --> 00:16:43,440 start running into problems um the 518 00:16:47,910 --> 00:16:45,839 longer pull there was was mlp and srb 519 00:16:49,590 --> 00:16:47,920 stacking and that's all behind us 520 00:16:51,350 --> 00:16:49,600 but at some point we do start to bump 521 00:16:53,590 --> 00:16:51,360 and and i i don't have the final answer 522 00:16:55,749 --> 00:16:53,600 there but i know it's not imminent uh to 523 00:16:57,670 --> 00:16:55,759 have problems with uh with the next one 524 00:17:01,030 --> 00:16:57,680 in fact we've we intentionally decoupled 525 00:17:04,230 --> 00:17:01,040 the rollout of atlantis over to the vab 526 00:17:05,750 --> 00:17:04,240 uh to decouple a round uh endeavor so 527 00:17:07,590 --> 00:17:05,760 that we could get that done regardless 528 00:17:08,789 --> 00:17:07,600 of any potential little slips here we 529 00:17:10,230 --> 00:17:08,799 were mostly looking at landing and 530 00:17:11,510 --> 00:17:10,240 staying in orbit a couple extra days but 531 00:17:13,270 --> 00:17:11,520 a launch slip would have done the same 532 00:17:15,029 --> 00:17:13,280 thing to us so so i think those two were 533 00:17:17,510 --> 00:17:15,039 decoupled 534 00:17:20,069 --> 00:17:17,520 on the heater question 535 00:17:21,750 --> 00:17:20,079 it was multiple heaters on 536 00:17:24,710 --> 00:17:21,760 string b 537 00:17:25,909 --> 00:17:24,720 that that were gone so right string a 538 00:17:27,750 --> 00:17:25,919 was fine 539 00:17:29,190 --> 00:17:27,760 and what you probably saw still was 540 00:17:30,789 --> 00:17:29,200 there's both the ground power that we 541 00:17:32,630 --> 00:17:30,799 can feed to that heater string and 542 00:17:34,630 --> 00:17:32,640 onboard ship power 543 00:17:36,310 --> 00:17:34,640 it's it's a switch in the cockpit that 544 00:17:37,909 --> 00:17:36,320 would send power through an alternate 545 00:17:39,669 --> 00:17:37,919 route source so we were switching 546 00:17:40,549 --> 00:17:39,679 between the that's what mike was talking 547 00:17:42,549 --> 00:17:40,559 about having to wait to get in the 548 00:17:44,390 --> 00:17:42,559 cockpit to try the alternate power feed 549 00:17:45,830 --> 00:17:44,400 to see if if the problem maybe was on 550 00:17:47,430 --> 00:17:45,840 the ground side 551 00:17:49,990 --> 00:17:47,440 on the b heaters and it turned out to 552 00:17:51,830 --> 00:17:50,000 not be it was in the on the ship side 553 00:17:53,430 --> 00:17:51,840 and the thing that was a little bit uh 554 00:17:55,350 --> 00:17:53,440 maybe confusing if you're listening to 555 00:17:57,510 --> 00:17:55,360 it those four heaters one of them comes 556 00:17:58,870 --> 00:17:57,520 on at at a higher temperature than the 557 00:18:00,630 --> 00:17:58,880 others and they kind of come on 558 00:18:02,710 --> 00:18:00,640 sequentially is a way you can think of 559 00:18:03,990 --> 00:18:02,720 it and so and so the one that didn't 560 00:18:06,070 --> 00:18:04,000 come on we know there's something wrong 561 00:18:07,830 --> 00:18:06,080 with that string either that heater or 562 00:18:09,190 --> 00:18:07,840 that thermostat um 563 00:18:11,270 --> 00:18:09,200 and then the second one comes on at a 564 00:18:12,630 --> 00:18:11,280 slightly lower temperature that was a 565 00:18:14,230 --> 00:18:12,640 little flaky we're not quite sure about 566 00:18:16,150 --> 00:18:14,240 that one yet we think it's failed as 567 00:18:17,669 --> 00:18:16,160 well and the other two the other two 568 00:18:19,270 --> 00:18:17,679 don't come on in the launch pad because 569 00:18:20,549 --> 00:18:19,280 it never gets that cold 570 00:18:22,549 --> 00:18:20,559 and so it 571 00:18:24,870 --> 00:18:22,559 it's probably a case where the feed to 572 00:18:27,510 --> 00:18:24,880 that whole string is is is off but i'm 573 00:18:28,630 --> 00:18:27,520 we're just not sure yet 574 00:18:35,270 --> 00:18:28,640 todd 575 00:18:38,789 --> 00:18:35,280 for mike leinbach um if you had to 576 00:18:42,390 --> 00:18:38,799 remove and replace the lca how many 577 00:18:44,070 --> 00:18:42,400 days or shifts would that take and um 578 00:18:47,029 --> 00:18:44,080 i was also wondering if you might 579 00:18:48,950 --> 00:18:47,039 clarify um on the unusual turn of the 580 00:18:50,310 --> 00:18:48,960 astro van into the parking lot at the 581 00:18:52,390 --> 00:18:50,320 lcc 582 00:18:54,549 --> 00:18:52,400 it sounds as if 583 00:18:58,070 --> 00:18:54,559 that was done so the crew could caucus 584 00:19:00,950 --> 00:18:58,080 with you is is that the way that went or 585 00:19:02,150 --> 00:19:00,960 why exactly did they pull into the lcc 586 00:19:04,230 --> 00:19:02,160 parking lot 587 00:19:06,230 --> 00:19:04,240 no the uh the uh 588 00:19:07,830 --> 00:19:06,240 the astro van issue i can talk to the 589 00:19:10,390 --> 00:19:07,840 astro band at at any point in their 590 00:19:11,750 --> 00:19:10,400 travel and and so we just let them start 591 00:19:13,430 --> 00:19:11,760 coming out to the pad because we needed 592 00:19:14,549 --> 00:19:13,440 just a few more minutes to wrap up our 593 00:19:15,909 --> 00:19:14,559 discussions 594 00:19:17,669 --> 00:19:15,919 and uh 595 00:19:18,549 --> 00:19:17,679 you know knowing the way this was going 596 00:19:20,230 --> 00:19:18,559 to go 597 00:19:22,070 --> 00:19:20,240 by that time we weren't going to let 598 00:19:23,909 --> 00:19:22,080 them inside the blast danger area 599 00:19:25,190 --> 00:19:23,919 probably not the launch danger area and 600 00:19:26,230 --> 00:19:25,200 it just got to the point where we said 601 00:19:28,549 --> 00:19:26,240 you know 602 00:19:30,310 --> 00:19:28,559 we're done with our discussion it just 603 00:19:32,710 --> 00:19:30,320 happened it was just happenstance that 604 00:19:35,110 --> 00:19:32,720 they were at the lcc and uh that's just 605 00:19:37,350 --> 00:19:35,120 the way it turned out 606 00:19:40,150 --> 00:19:37,360 the lca box changed out the guys working 607 00:19:42,390 --> 00:19:40,160 on that on that detailed plan uh that's 608 00:19:43,990 --> 00:19:42,400 that's that's going to be a a difficult 609 00:19:46,630 --> 00:19:44,000 box to change out 610 00:19:48,870 --> 00:19:46,640 and and in particular the retest there's 611 00:19:50,150 --> 00:19:48,880 a good 48 hours or so of retest because 612 00:19:52,390 --> 00:19:50,160 there are multiple systems that go 613 00:19:54,950 --> 00:19:52,400 through that guy and so we we have to 614 00:19:56,310 --> 00:19:54,960 lay out that detailed plan um that that 615 00:20:00,230 --> 00:19:56,320 would be that would that would take us a 616 00:20:05,430 --> 00:20:03,029 randy avera interspace news uh for both 617 00:20:08,549 --> 00:20:05,440 leinbach and moses anytime you go into 618 00:20:10,310 --> 00:20:08,559 the aft compartment it's a hazard 619 00:20:12,549 --> 00:20:10,320 to make sure you get in and get out not 620 00:20:14,710 --> 00:20:12,559 damage anything how much access are you 621 00:20:16,470 --> 00:20:14,720 going to require and also do you have 622 00:20:17,830 --> 00:20:16,480 spares for these parts that are in 623 00:20:19,270 --> 00:20:17,840 question 624 00:20:22,230 --> 00:20:19,280 yeah right now 625 00:20:24,310 --> 00:20:22,240 access to this this lca and the heater 626 00:20:26,310 --> 00:20:24,320 is on the left side of the ship we only 627 00:20:28,470 --> 00:20:26,320 have to go in the left door of the of 628 00:20:30,390 --> 00:20:28,480 the aft we'll put in the entry level 629 00:20:32,549 --> 00:20:30,400 platform and one platform level before 630 00:20:33,990 --> 00:20:32,559 that below that excuse me and we'll be 631 00:20:34,870 --> 00:20:34,000 able to do all troubleshooting from that 632 00:20:36,390 --> 00:20:34,880 from that 633 00:20:39,110 --> 00:20:36,400 entry location we don't have to go in 634 00:20:40,710 --> 00:20:39,120 the right side of the ship at all 635 00:20:44,149 --> 00:20:40,720 spares no not an issue we asked that 636 00:20:48,470 --> 00:20:47,029 clara moskowitz with space.com and i was 637 00:20:50,630 --> 00:20:48,480 just hoping you could clarify the 638 00:20:51,990 --> 00:20:50,640 history of this kind of issue uh has it 639 00:20:55,029 --> 00:20:52,000 happened in the past when was the last 640 00:20:57,270 --> 00:20:55,039 time and how often has this come up 641 00:20:59,430 --> 00:20:57,280 yeah let's see the schedule i saw the 642 00:21:02,390 --> 00:20:59,440 recovery schedule it did fail we had a 643 00:21:04,390 --> 00:21:02,400 similar failure to this maybe oh gosh i 644 00:21:05,990 --> 00:21:04,400 don't remember the sts number 645 00:21:07,909 --> 00:21:06,000 but that's where we dug out our history 646 00:21:10,070 --> 00:21:07,919 whenever we have a failure on on the 647 00:21:12,070 --> 00:21:10,080 ship we keep good detail records of how 648 00:21:13,430 --> 00:21:12,080 we've recovered from that failure to 649 00:21:16,070 --> 00:21:13,440 give us a starting point for the 650 00:21:17,750 --> 00:21:16,080 recovery of the current failure and so 651 00:21:19,590 --> 00:21:17,760 yeah we've had this failure before but i 652 00:21:21,190 --> 00:21:19,600 don't remember which ship it was 653 00:21:22,870 --> 00:21:21,200 let's see just on the history of this 654 00:21:24,950 --> 00:21:22,880 particular one 655 00:21:26,950 --> 00:21:24,960 we tend to lump heater performance into 656 00:21:27,990 --> 00:21:26,960 a category we call it the file 9 657 00:21:29,590 --> 00:21:28,000 checkout 658 00:21:31,190 --> 00:21:29,600 if we were going to ground check out 659 00:21:32,630 --> 00:21:31,200 every single heater system we'd have to 660 00:21:34,789 --> 00:21:32,640 do kind of what we're about to go do now 661 00:21:36,950 --> 00:21:34,799 which is go in and actually chill down 662 00:21:38,549 --> 00:21:36,960 each individual thermostat to get it to 663 00:21:40,070 --> 00:21:38,559 kick on by itself 664 00:21:42,310 --> 00:21:40,080 and that's a very invasive intensive 665 00:21:44,070 --> 00:21:42,320 thing to do every single flow so what we 666 00:21:45,029 --> 00:21:44,080 do is we check their performance on 667 00:21:46,630 --> 00:21:45,039 orbit 668 00:21:47,990 --> 00:21:46,640 and if the performance of the heaters we 669 00:21:50,070 --> 00:21:48,000 switch between the a strings and the b 670 00:21:51,350 --> 00:21:50,080 strings on orbit so we give a full ship 671 00:21:53,190 --> 00:21:51,360 set at checkout 672 00:21:55,430 --> 00:21:53,200 and as long as there's nothing anomalous 673 00:21:56,789 --> 00:21:55,440 in any of the orbit performance then we 674 00:21:58,470 --> 00:21:56,799 consider that checked and ready to go 675 00:22:00,950 --> 00:21:58,480 for the next flight so 676 00:22:02,870 --> 00:22:00,960 the last time this string was checked on 677 00:22:04,630 --> 00:22:02,880 the ground i think they tell me was 678 00:22:06,390 --> 00:22:04,640 and i just lost the date from my head it 679 00:22:08,070 --> 00:22:06,400 was uh it was at least two years ago i 680 00:22:10,070 --> 00:22:08,080 believe but its last performance in 681 00:22:11,909 --> 00:22:10,080 orbit was was perfect so 682 00:22:12,950 --> 00:22:11,919 something obviously opened up between 683 00:22:16,390 --> 00:22:12,960 then and now and that's what we're going 684 00:22:21,669 --> 00:22:18,950 uh greg dobbs with hd net television uh 685 00:22:24,149 --> 00:22:21,679 first for mike moses if you end up 686 00:22:25,909 --> 00:22:24,159 having had multiple heater failures you 687 00:22:28,149 --> 00:22:25,919 suggested maybe there was a second one 688 00:22:30,070 --> 00:22:28,159 does that point toward or away a 689 00:22:32,070 --> 00:22:30,080 thermostat problem or something more 690 00:22:33,909 --> 00:22:32,080 important mike leinbach two things 691 00:22:35,350 --> 00:22:33,919 number one what's the fisher cut bait 692 00:22:37,510 --> 00:22:35,360 time to decide whether you're going to 693 00:22:39,909 --> 00:22:37,520 proceed toward a monday launch i assume 694 00:22:43,190 --> 00:22:39,919 it's sometime sunday and you mentioned 695 00:22:45,830 --> 00:22:43,200 shortly after the scrub a short circuit 696 00:22:47,830 --> 00:22:45,840 so let's see on the on the 697 00:22:49,830 --> 00:22:47,840 multiple failure thing 698 00:22:51,990 --> 00:22:49,840 it kind of depends a thermostat that's 699 00:22:53,350 --> 00:22:52,000 running a little low and just didn't 700 00:22:54,950 --> 00:22:53,360 trip 701 00:22:56,789 --> 00:22:54,960 and when we chill it down we see that it 702 00:22:58,789 --> 00:22:56,799 actually does function that would be a 703 00:23:00,470 --> 00:22:58,799 pretty quick change out 704 00:23:02,230 --> 00:23:00,480 but the rest of that circuit if there's 705 00:23:04,070 --> 00:23:02,240 a thermostat that's failed such that it 706 00:23:05,430 --> 00:23:04,080 might have an open circuit in it not 707 00:23:07,350 --> 00:23:05,440 necessarily a short circuit but just an 708 00:23:08,950 --> 00:23:07,360 open that would open up the ground these 709 00:23:11,029 --> 00:23:08,960 things are wired together such that they 710 00:23:13,110 --> 00:23:11,039 sh all this all the heaters on the at 711 00:23:15,029 --> 00:23:13,120 least the front half of that string 712 00:23:17,029 --> 00:23:15,039 share a common ground and so that 713 00:23:18,950 --> 00:23:17,039 opening up would then pull down the in 714 00:23:20,710 --> 00:23:18,960 the lca box that mike was talking about 715 00:23:22,390 --> 00:23:20,720 would pull open that circuit which would 716 00:23:24,630 --> 00:23:22,400 then give us the signature where we see 717 00:23:26,950 --> 00:23:24,640 the whole string failed so so a single 718 00:23:28,870 --> 00:23:26,960 failure on one heater thermostat could 719 00:23:30,070 --> 00:23:28,880 still cause this problem 720 00:23:32,070 --> 00:23:30,080 that's what we need to go find out was 721 00:23:33,750 --> 00:23:32,080 it a single thermostat by itself or was 722 00:23:35,990 --> 00:23:33,760 it one a failure in there that pulled 723 00:23:37,990 --> 00:23:36,000 down the rest of the system 724 00:23:39,909 --> 00:23:38,000 and as far as the fisher cut bait time 725 00:23:41,430 --> 00:23:39,919 for monday's launch attempt 726 00:23:43,669 --> 00:23:41,440 recall we're going to have to rotate the 727 00:23:45,669 --> 00:23:43,679 the rss to the park position that would 728 00:23:47,190 --> 00:23:45,679 that would occur sunday afternoon 729 00:23:48,870 --> 00:23:47,200 probably on the order of three o'clock 730 00:23:50,149 --> 00:23:48,880 or so 731 00:23:53,110 --> 00:23:50,159 and here again we could be a little bit 732 00:23:54,710 --> 00:23:53,120 late as we've just proven on that but uh 733 00:23:56,390 --> 00:23:54,720 but uh you know sunday afternoon we have 734 00:23:57,909 --> 00:23:56,400 to get into launch preparations because 735 00:24:00,630 --> 00:23:57,919 we'd be obviously fueling the ship 736 00:24:04,549 --> 00:24:00,640 monday morning so sometime 737 00:24:07,029 --> 00:24:04,559 noonish sunday probably 738 00:24:09,430 --> 00:24:07,039 bill uh bill harwood cbs i guess uh for 739 00:24:11,350 --> 00:24:09,440 bob cabana if i could um 740 00:24:13,029 --> 00:24:11,360 what did the president say about uh i 741 00:24:14,470 --> 00:24:13,039 don't know you know i guess giving you 742 00:24:15,510 --> 00:24:14,480 some sympathy for having to scrub the 743 00:24:17,029 --> 00:24:15,520 launch i know that it was a 744 00:24:18,549 --> 00:24:17,039 disappointment to you guys but can you 745 00:24:21,110 --> 00:24:18,559 tell us anything about 746 00:24:22,789 --> 00:24:21,120 that conversation and did he 747 00:24:25,110 --> 00:24:22,799 meet with ms giffords and where did that 748 00:24:27,590 --> 00:24:25,120 take place i assume in the lcc 749 00:24:29,590 --> 00:24:27,600 uh as far as the scrub you know i didn't 750 00:24:31,590 --> 00:24:29,600 talk to him in detail it was only a 751 00:24:33,909 --> 00:24:31,600 greeting and in passing between uh his 752 00:24:36,230 --> 00:24:33,919 stops as we escorted him around that uh 753 00:24:39,110 --> 00:24:36,240 he was very supportive of uh you know he 754 00:24:40,630 --> 00:24:39,120 understands and uh he we're going to do 755 00:24:42,310 --> 00:24:40,640 the right thing he had a great talk with 756 00:24:45,110 --> 00:24:42,320 the crew he really enjoyed talking with 757 00:24:49,750 --> 00:24:45,120 him and it went on for some time and 758 00:24:55,909 --> 00:24:51,990 just come back over here any questions 759 00:25:01,590 --> 00:24:59,269 jd wallace with kold tv out of tucson 760 00:25:03,669 --> 00:25:01,600 just curious would the wind now looking 761 00:25:05,669 --> 00:25:03,679 in hindsight would the wind have maybe 762 00:25:07,110 --> 00:25:05,679 delayed this anyway since it got pretty 763 00:25:08,230 --> 00:25:07,120 gusty right around when it would have 764 00:25:09,990 --> 00:25:08,240 launched 765 00:25:12,390 --> 00:25:10,000 see they gave me the the actual 766 00:25:14,070 --> 00:25:12,400 observations so uh here at kennedy the 767 00:25:15,590 --> 00:25:14,080 winds were within limits it shifted 768 00:25:18,070 --> 00:25:15,600 around it wasn't a crosswind concern as 769 00:25:20,310 --> 00:25:18,080 much it was a tailwind so we would go 770 00:25:22,789 --> 00:25:20,320 for a landing on the 3-3 runway so that 771 00:25:24,470 --> 00:25:22,799 would have been a go rtls forecast 772 00:25:25,590 --> 00:25:24,480 over on the tao sights we had thought 773 00:25:27,669 --> 00:25:25,600 heading into this that we were going to 774 00:25:29,190 --> 00:25:27,679 have a good solid tall sighted estrus 775 00:25:30,950 --> 00:25:29,200 and there won't be any problems turns 776 00:25:33,350 --> 00:25:30,960 out it rained all day long at estrus and 777 00:25:35,029 --> 00:25:33,360 so estrus was actually down zaragoza was 778 00:25:36,549 --> 00:25:35,039 raining as well but just outside the 779 00:25:38,230 --> 00:25:36,559 circle so zaragoza would have been a go 780 00:25:41,029 --> 00:25:38,240 towel site so we actually had observed 781 00:25:45,830 --> 00:25:41,039 go weather both rtls and tau which is a 782 00:25:50,070 --> 00:25:48,390 right any more questions over here 783 00:25:51,669 --> 00:25:50,080 all right let's come back uh over here 784 00:25:52,789 --> 00:25:51,679 on the front 785 00:25:59,830 --> 00:25:52,799 yes 786 00:26:03,430 --> 00:26:01,750 clark people magazine is there any 787 00:26:05,430 --> 00:26:03,440 knowledge um 788 00:26:07,350 --> 00:26:05,440 whether the congresswoman 789 00:26:09,029 --> 00:26:07,360 will now stay for the launch or will she 790 00:26:10,950 --> 00:26:09,039 be returning to houston does anybody 791 00:26:13,510 --> 00:26:10,960 have any information 792 00:26:15,430 --> 00:26:13,520 they haven't told us what her plans are 793 00:26:17,990 --> 00:26:15,440 thank you 794 00:26:20,149 --> 00:26:18,000 okay let's uh go right here in the back 795 00:26:22,470 --> 00:26:20,159 of ken 796 00:26:24,549 --> 00:26:22,480 hi ken kramer's space flight magazine uh 797 00:26:27,029 --> 00:26:24,559 for bob cabana uh do you know if uh 798 00:26:30,630 --> 00:26:27,039 president obama would come back 799 00:26:32,549 --> 00:26:30,640 and um um for either of the mikes um the 800 00:26:34,390 --> 00:26:32,559 atlas is there any chance the air force 801 00:26:36,149 --> 00:26:34,400 might might make room for for the 802 00:26:38,390 --> 00:26:36,159 shuttle if you have to have a few days 803 00:26:40,310 --> 00:26:38,400 in the middle of the week 804 00:26:41,750 --> 00:26:40,320 well he did say if it was monday he 805 00:26:43,510 --> 00:26:41,760 wouldn't be able to make it back for it 806 00:26:45,190 --> 00:26:43,520 on monday but 807 00:26:48,390 --> 00:26:45,200 as far as a future launch we'll have to 808 00:26:50,310 --> 00:26:48,400 see no no firm commitment there 809 00:26:52,070 --> 00:26:50,320 and with the with the atlas as always 810 00:26:53,190 --> 00:26:52,080 we'll we'll talk to them and see how 811 00:26:54,789 --> 00:26:53,200 they're doing on their processing and 812 00:26:56,390 --> 00:26:54,799 how we're doing on ours and when we get 813 00:26:58,070 --> 00:26:56,400 closer to monday tuesday time frame if 814 00:26:59,430 --> 00:26:58,080 we if we look like we're go and we need 815 00:27:02,310 --> 00:26:59,440 a couple extra days we can talk to them 816 00:27:03,590 --> 00:27:02,320 about that uh if it looks like uh that 817 00:27:05,269 --> 00:27:03,600 they're having problems that might give 818 00:27:06,470 --> 00:27:05,279 us a little room it might be better to 819 00:27:08,470 --> 00:27:06,480 let them go because we need a little 820 00:27:09,990 --> 00:27:08,480 extra time to go troubleshoot too so 821 00:27:10,789 --> 00:27:10,000 that's a dynamic discussion and yeah 822 00:27:12,470 --> 00:27:10,799 we'll certainly be having those 823 00:27:13,909 --> 00:27:12,480 conversations 824 00:27:16,149 --> 00:27:13,919 okay 825 00:27:18,230 --> 00:27:16,159 alan boyle with msnbc 826 00:27:20,470 --> 00:27:18,240 for bob cabana i wonder if you had any 827 00:27:23,269 --> 00:27:20,480 more anecdotes about either the meeting 828 00:27:25,590 --> 00:27:23,279 with uh congresswoman giffords or any of 829 00:27:27,830 --> 00:27:25,600 the other interactions for example you 830 00:27:30,310 --> 00:27:27,840 hear some of the statements that obama 831 00:27:32,830 --> 00:27:30,320 may have made like where's the duct tape 832 00:27:34,710 --> 00:27:32,840 or uh 833 00:27:36,789 --> 00:27:34,720 other bond mods that you might be able 834 00:27:39,110 --> 00:27:36,799 to pass along sure 835 00:27:41,510 --> 00:27:39,120 his meeting with pr was private with uh 836 00:27:42,789 --> 00:27:41,520 with gabby and as far as when he was 837 00:27:44,389 --> 00:27:42,799 talking with the crew i really wasn't 838 00:27:45,750 --> 00:27:44,399 listening to everything that they had to 839 00:27:47,430 --> 00:27:45,760 say but they were 840 00:27:48,870 --> 00:27:47,440 they were just talking about 841 00:27:50,070 --> 00:27:48,880 you know the mission and what they were 842 00:27:52,630 --> 00:27:50,080 going to do and 843 00:27:54,230 --> 00:27:52,640 on it and he was extremely interested i 844 00:27:55,990 --> 00:27:54,240 understand the girls asked some great 845 00:27:58,870 --> 00:27:56,000 questions when they were touring 846 00:28:00,310 --> 00:27:58,880 atlantis of janet cavandi and they were 847 00:28:02,070 --> 00:28:00,320 really enthused and 848 00:28:04,630 --> 00:28:02,080 as well as the president and first lady 849 00:28:06,389 --> 00:28:04,640 uh talking about seeing atlantis up 850 00:28:07,990 --> 00:28:06,399 close and i know he enjoyed his time 851 00:28:09,350 --> 00:28:08,000 with the crew 852 00:28:16,870 --> 00:28:09,360 you had a question all the way in the 853 00:28:27,590 --> 00:28:18,710 no let's not do that because people on 854 00:28:31,990 --> 00:28:30,070 donna linewand with usa today can you 855 00:28:34,230 --> 00:28:32,000 tell me how the astronauts will be 856 00:28:36,149 --> 00:28:34,240 spending the next couple of days and how 857 00:28:38,549 --> 00:28:36,159 much access they'll have to their 858 00:28:42,310 --> 00:28:38,559 families and what you'll be doing them 859 00:28:43,350 --> 00:28:42,320 doing with them to keep them up to speed 860 00:28:47,510 --> 00:28:43,360 well 861 00:28:49,510 --> 00:28:47,520 i guess i haven't been there before uh 862 00:28:51,430 --> 00:28:49,520 they're uh they will have time with 863 00:28:53,830 --> 00:28:51,440 their uh with their families obviously 864 00:28:55,669 --> 00:28:53,840 not their uh children but those that are 865 00:28:58,070 --> 00:28:55,679 old enough to have 866 00:28:59,909 --> 00:28:58,080 you know allow them to be in quarantine 867 00:29:01,830 --> 00:28:59,919 and visit them there'll be time out at 868 00:29:04,230 --> 00:29:01,840 the beach house to relax and get 869 00:29:06,310 --> 00:29:04,240 together with their families again 870 00:29:08,149 --> 00:29:06,320 they'll obviously be 871 00:29:10,310 --> 00:29:08,159 going over their procedures on a on a 872 00:29:11,669 --> 00:29:10,320 regular basis basis making sure they're 873 00:29:13,669 --> 00:29:11,679 ready and 874 00:29:14,789 --> 00:29:13,679 they'll be listening in to hear you know 875 00:29:17,190 --> 00:29:14,799 how we're doing 876 00:29:18,549 --> 00:29:17,200 on the troubleshooting and 877 00:29:20,389 --> 00:29:18,559 looking forward to what the weather is 878 00:29:22,070 --> 00:29:20,399 going to be and what the plan is for 879 00:29:24,070 --> 00:29:22,080 going to fly but mainly they're just 880 00:29:26,310 --> 00:29:24,080 going to be relaxing in crew quarters 881 00:29:27,830 --> 00:29:26,320 they're well prepared they've worked 882 00:29:30,470 --> 00:29:27,840 long and hard for this and they're ready 883 00:29:33,669 --> 00:29:30,480 to go so this is an opportunity to just 884 00:29:34,870 --> 00:29:33,679 kick back a little bit and relax 885 00:29:39,430 --> 00:29:34,880 james 886 00:29:41,909 --> 00:29:39,440 first for mike leinbach just to further 887 00:29:44,070 --> 00:29:41,919 clarify it sounds like the crew 888 00:29:46,389 --> 00:29:44,080 knew as they were even suiting up or 889 00:29:49,029 --> 00:29:46,399 before they even walked out that 890 00:29:53,029 --> 00:29:49,039 scrub was or this issue was in work and 891 00:29:55,669 --> 00:29:53,039 a scrub was either possible or probable 892 00:29:57,190 --> 00:29:55,679 uh well like us they know the ship very 893 00:29:58,870 --> 00:29:57,200 well if not better 894 00:30:00,870 --> 00:29:58,880 i assume colonel cabana knows it 895 00:30:02,310 --> 00:30:00,880 extremely well um 896 00:30:04,549 --> 00:30:02,320 so yeah they probably understood that 897 00:30:06,470 --> 00:30:04,559 this was a significant problem that we 898 00:30:08,389 --> 00:30:06,480 might not make our way out of 899 00:30:11,269 --> 00:30:08,399 but in order to stay on the timeline had 900 00:30:13,430 --> 00:30:11,279 we gotten lucky uh we had to we had to 901 00:30:15,990 --> 00:30:13,440 keep them headed towards the pad and and 902 00:30:17,669 --> 00:30:16,000 the ingress and and indeed if we needed 903 00:30:18,630 --> 00:30:17,679 another hour or two to talk the problem 904 00:30:20,710 --> 00:30:18,640 we would have done that and they would 905 00:30:21,750 --> 00:30:20,720 have strapped in and had we scrubbed 906 00:30:23,909 --> 00:30:21,760 after they strapped in and they would 907 00:30:25,269 --> 00:30:23,919 have understood that too so it was just 908 00:30:27,830 --> 00:30:25,279 a very coincidental thing with the 909 00:30:29,669 --> 00:30:27,840 timing of the crew 910 00:30:32,310 --> 00:30:29,679 okay right here 911 00:30:33,990 --> 00:30:32,320 smith kg u n t v in in tucson does 912 00:30:36,870 --> 00:30:34,000 meeting with the president effectively 913 00:30:39,430 --> 00:30:36,880 stretch the crew quarantine rules 914 00:30:42,789 --> 00:30:39,440 no actually the president 915 00:30:45,510 --> 00:30:42,799 was uh had a physical by the uh flight 916 00:30:48,070 --> 00:30:45,520 crews uh crew surgeon and uh was cleared 917 00:30:49,269 --> 00:30:48,080 to meet with the crew and the crews in a 918 00:30:51,350 --> 00:30:49,279 big room 919 00:30:52,789 --> 00:30:51,360 you know i mean nobody was up close to 920 00:30:54,470 --> 00:30:52,799 him other than the president and first 921 00:30:56,389 --> 00:30:54,480 lady and they were both cleared by the 922 00:30:57,669 --> 00:30:56,399 doctor 923 00:30:59,430 --> 00:30:57,679 is that similar 924 00:31:01,269 --> 00:30:59,440 used to make sure family members are 925 00:31:02,389 --> 00:31:01,279 okay to be in close quarters absolutely 926 00:31:04,549 --> 00:31:02,399 all the 927 00:31:06,549 --> 00:31:04,559 whenever we have a crew in quarantine 928 00:31:09,669 --> 00:31:06,559 anybody that is with the crew in 929 00:31:12,149 --> 00:31:09,679 quarantine uh has to have been cleared 930 00:31:14,789 --> 00:31:12,159 by a flight dock and 931 00:31:16,950 --> 00:31:14,799 you know it was nothing unusual or out 932 00:31:18,470 --> 00:31:16,960 of the ordinary 933 00:31:20,070 --> 00:31:18,480 thank you 934 00:31:22,470 --> 00:31:20,080 scott powers from the orlando sentinel 935 00:31:24,710 --> 00:31:22,480 for mike leinbach a couple of questions 936 00:31:26,470 --> 00:31:24,720 first could the the two lines that were 937 00:31:28,230 --> 00:31:26,480 involved here do they each have four 938 00:31:29,430 --> 00:31:28,240 heaters on them is it my understanding 939 00:31:31,509 --> 00:31:29,440 or 940 00:31:33,830 --> 00:31:31,519 and the second question is 941 00:31:37,269 --> 00:31:33,840 uh the else the the um 942 00:31:39,590 --> 00:31:37,279 the uh switchbox when you get that off 943 00:31:41,269 --> 00:31:39,600 is the problem uh that takes a couple of 944 00:31:43,190 --> 00:31:41,279 extra days mainly because of so much 945 00:31:44,710 --> 00:31:43,200 testing that needs to be done or is it 946 00:31:47,110 --> 00:31:44,720 actually being able to get to it and get 947 00:31:50,310 --> 00:31:47,120 it out of that that spot 948 00:31:52,230 --> 00:31:50,320 i'm not 100 certain of the configuration 949 00:31:54,470 --> 00:31:52,240 of of the heaters and and the different 950 00:31:56,149 --> 00:31:54,480 strings maybe bob or mike has that i'm 951 00:31:57,190 --> 00:31:56,159 counting them right now okay and the 952 00:32:00,950 --> 00:31:57,200 other one 953 00:32:03,669 --> 00:32:00,960 avionics bay and change out that that 954 00:32:05,990 --> 00:32:03,679 box and and uh so a lot of work to to 955 00:32:08,310 --> 00:32:06,000 open that box the avionics bay up and 956 00:32:11,029 --> 00:32:08,320 change it out close it back out and then 957 00:32:12,710 --> 00:32:11,039 the re-test so it's a significant deal 958 00:32:14,070 --> 00:32:12,720 and there's um there's looks like 959 00:32:16,230 --> 00:32:14,080 there's 12 different heaters on that 960 00:32:18,470 --> 00:32:16,240 line but not all of them will cycle at 961 00:32:20,070 --> 00:32:18,480 the temperatures we see at the pad so uh 962 00:32:22,470 --> 00:32:20,080 the four we were talking about we knew 963 00:32:24,070 --> 00:32:22,480 weren't responding uh there's the rest 964 00:32:25,830 --> 00:32:24,080 of them are in the category they may or 965 00:32:27,029 --> 00:32:25,840 may not be responding at the pad so 966 00:32:28,389 --> 00:32:27,039 we're gonna have to do the teams are 967 00:32:30,310 --> 00:32:28,399 doing that exactly right now pulling all 968 00:32:31,669 --> 00:32:30,320 that detailed data comparing it to the 969 00:32:33,669 --> 00:32:31,679 history to say should that heater have 970 00:32:35,430 --> 00:32:33,679 been cycling to know exactly which 971 00:32:37,190 --> 00:32:35,440 pieces are failed that helps us with 972 00:32:40,230 --> 00:32:37,200 kind of trying to find our common root 973 00:32:41,909 --> 00:32:40,240 cause those two lines are identical 974 00:32:43,269 --> 00:32:41,919 the two heater strings are identical so 975 00:32:44,870 --> 00:32:43,279 yeah if you think about it there's a 976 00:32:47,350 --> 00:32:44,880 basically a pipe that carries the 977 00:32:49,750 --> 00:32:47,360 hydrogen of a fluid line and it has a 978 00:32:51,190 --> 00:32:49,760 wrapped line around it uh that wrap is a 979 00:32:53,029 --> 00:32:51,200 is a resistance heater so you run 980 00:32:54,870 --> 00:32:53,039 electricity through the wire it heats up 981 00:32:56,789 --> 00:32:54,880 and it provides heat and so there's 982 00:32:58,149 --> 00:32:56,799 there's the a string is wrapped along 983 00:33:00,070 --> 00:32:58,159 the pipe and then right beside it the b 984 00:33:01,990 --> 00:33:00,080 string is wrapped along so so there's 985 00:33:03,110 --> 00:33:02,000 basically two separate heaters that run 986 00:33:05,430 --> 00:33:03,120 along the same 987 00:33:07,029 --> 00:33:05,440 same piece of fluid line and and so the 988 00:33:08,549 --> 00:33:07,039 one string was working the other one was 989 00:33:09,909 --> 00:33:08,559 not 990 00:33:11,669 --> 00:33:09,919 okay we'll take one or two more and then 991 00:33:13,990 --> 00:33:11,679 we'll wrap up right here 992 00:33:15,990 --> 00:33:14,000 very inner space news for bob cabana in 993 00:33:18,389 --> 00:33:16,000 your opening statement you said that the 994 00:33:20,630 --> 00:33:18,399 president obama said that he would 995 00:33:22,470 --> 00:33:20,640 promise you his support 996 00:33:24,149 --> 00:33:22,480 could you give us more about the context 997 00:33:26,310 --> 00:33:24,159 of that statement and is this something 998 00:33:28,470 --> 00:33:26,320 new from what you've heard in the past 999 00:33:30,389 --> 00:33:28,480 from the president no i i think the 1000 00:33:32,870 --> 00:33:30,399 president supports our space flight 1001 00:33:34,870 --> 00:33:32,880 program and he's very supportive of what 1002 00:33:37,269 --> 00:33:34,880 we're doing 1003 00:33:38,789 --> 00:33:37,279 the commercial space 1004 00:33:40,230 --> 00:33:38,799 we've got uh 1005 00:33:42,310 --> 00:33:40,240 here at kennedy space center we've got 1006 00:33:46,149 --> 00:33:42,320 the commercial crew 1007 00:33:49,350 --> 00:33:46,159 program here at ksc uh supporting that 1008 00:33:51,269 --> 00:33:49,360 he is supportive of us building a uh 1009 00:33:54,149 --> 00:33:51,279 a large rocket and crew vehicle to go 1010 00:33:55,509 --> 00:33:54,159 beyond our home planet so 1011 00:33:56,789 --> 00:33:55,519 he just 1012 00:33:59,669 --> 00:33:56,799 emphasized 1013 00:34:03,110 --> 00:33:59,679 that he supports what we're doing and 1014 00:34:07,509 --> 00:34:05,590 grant miller the odessan i guess this is 1015 00:34:09,430 --> 00:34:07,519 for one of the mikes uh can you tell us 1016 00:34:11,349 --> 00:34:09,440 how the weather looks for monday through 1017 00:34:12,790 --> 00:34:11,359 wednesday launch next week i know that's 1018 00:34:15,829 --> 00:34:12,800 a ways off but 1019 00:34:17,909 --> 00:34:15,839 and for here or the abort sides 1020 00:34:19,349 --> 00:34:17,919 so i'm not trying to be flippant but i 1021 00:34:20,790 --> 00:34:19,359 don't i don't know and i'm not sure it 1022 00:34:22,310 --> 00:34:20,800 matters much right because the the 1023 00:34:23,669 --> 00:34:22,320 forecasts are what they are the 1024 00:34:25,589 --> 00:34:23,679 long-range forecast we talked this 1025 00:34:27,430 --> 00:34:25,599 morning we talked at a 48 hour scrub so 1026 00:34:28,470 --> 00:34:27,440 that would have been a sunday uh attempt 1027 00:34:30,869 --> 00:34:28,480 and we kind of looked at the same 1028 00:34:32,950 --> 00:34:30,879 weather pattern we're facing right now 1029 00:34:35,109 --> 00:34:32,960 decent really decent chance here at 1030 00:34:37,510 --> 00:34:35,119 kennedy for good launch weather uh winds 1031 00:34:39,510 --> 00:34:37,520 were dropping off basically low clouds 1032 00:34:41,430 --> 00:34:39,520 the towel weather was about the same 1033 00:34:42,869 --> 00:34:41,440 which was iffy but i know that's going 1034 00:34:44,389 --> 00:34:42,879 to improve because the high pressure 1035 00:34:45,669 --> 00:34:44,399 will be settling in finally over spain 1036 00:34:47,430 --> 00:34:45,679 and france 1037 00:34:48,710 --> 00:34:47,440 and so we should have decent tau weather 1038 00:34:49,750 --> 00:34:48,720 at the beginning of next week but we 1039 00:34:51,270 --> 00:34:49,760 haven't even started to look at the 1040 00:34:52,950 --> 00:34:51,280 long-range forecast yet 1041 00:34:57,990 --> 00:34:52,960 i tend to delete all the email with a 1042 00:35:01,270 --> 00:34:59,750 all right we'll take one more back here 1043 00:35:03,589 --> 00:35:01,280 and that'll be it 1044 00:35:05,589 --> 00:35:03,599 james bond with nico nico a question for 1045 00:35:08,550 --> 00:35:05,599 bob cabana um did the president have any 1046 00:35:11,990 --> 00:35:08,560 words of encouragement uh to you to the 1047 00:35:14,230 --> 00:35:12,000 staff here at ksc uh with the shuttle uh 1048 00:35:15,030 --> 00:35:14,240 program winding down what what were his 1049 00:35:16,870 --> 00:35:15,040 uh 1050 00:35:19,190 --> 00:35:16,880 comments too 1051 00:35:21,030 --> 00:35:19,200 no specific comments he was just uh you 1052 00:35:22,790 --> 00:35:21,040 know everybody that he ran into he 1053 00:35:24,950 --> 00:35:22,800 thanked him for uh you know what we were 1054 00:35:27,910 --> 00:35:24,960 doing and that i wasn't privy to all the 1055 00:35:29,030 --> 00:35:27,920 president's conversations uh a few short 1056 00:35:30,550 --> 00:35:29,040 greetings and 1057 00:35:32,950 --> 00:35:30,560 he was just you know it was very 1058 00:35:35,030 --> 00:35:32,960 positive he was really uh enjoyed his 1059 00:35:37,349 --> 00:35:35,040 tour he enjoyed seeing all the that he 1060 00:35:39,430 --> 00:35:37,359 saw and uh you know wants us to 1061 00:35:40,790 --> 00:35:39,440 keep doing good things 1062 00:35:42,950 --> 00:35:40,800 and george before you wrap up let me 1063 00:35:45,670 --> 00:35:42,960 just i forgot to mention uh we talked a 1064 00:35:46,870 --> 00:35:45,680 lot about et-122 our external tank uh 1065 00:35:48,310 --> 00:35:46,880 and all the modifications it went 1066 00:35:50,310 --> 00:35:48,320 through and i failed to in my opening 1067 00:35:51,750 --> 00:35:50,320 remarks tell you that uh we went ahead 1068 00:35:54,150 --> 00:35:51,760 the ice team went out looked at that 1069 00:35:55,430 --> 00:35:54,160 tank uh because we had it fully loaded 1070 00:35:57,430 --> 00:35:55,440 uh the inspection teams are out there 1071 00:35:59,349 --> 00:35:57,440 now or we'll be going out there now that 1072 00:36:01,109 --> 00:35:59,359 it's drained but the reports from that 1073 00:36:02,069 --> 00:36:01,119 team were perfect the tank looked 1074 00:36:03,510 --> 00:36:02,079 beautiful 1075 00:36:04,790 --> 00:36:03,520 their words were that it looked like 1076 00:36:06,069 --> 00:36:04,800 every other tank 1077 00:36:07,349 --> 00:36:06,079 performance was flawless from that 1078 00:36:08,950 --> 00:36:07,359 external tank so i did want to make sure 1079 00:36:10,550 --> 00:36:08,960 we mentioned that 1080 00:36:11,990 --> 00:36:10,560 we ended up getting a good tanking test 1081 00:36:14,390 --> 00:36:12,000 so we know this tank is in really great 1082 00:36:20,710 --> 00:36:17,190 and i'd also like to just add my thanks 1083 00:36:22,470 --> 00:36:20,720 to to both me mike's uh i think the team 1084 00:36:24,150 --> 00:36:22,480 just did an outstanding job getting us 1085 00:36:26,950 --> 00:36:24,160 to where we needed to be today had we 1086 00:36:28,710 --> 00:36:26,960 had the opportunity to launch and they 1087 00:36:32,069 --> 00:36:28,720 overcame an awful lot it's an 1088 00:36:34,630 --> 00:36:32,079 outstanding team uh the flow team uh 1089 00:36:37,349 --> 00:36:34,640 they got endeavor ready to go fly uh it 1090 00:36:39,750 --> 00:36:37,359 was super yeah i just i can't say enough 1091 00:36:41,829 --> 00:36:39,760 good things about them so these guys did 1092 00:36:45,510 --> 00:36:41,839 a an awesome job and we'll get it right 1093 00:36:47,109 --> 00:36:45,520 and we'll go fly as soon as we can 1094 00:36:49,750 --> 00:36:47,119 all right before we wrap up we have a 1095 00:36:52,630 --> 00:36:49,760 one minute video of president obama's 1096 00:37:07,109 --> 00:36:52,640 visit here this afternoon and after that 1097 00:37:10,470 --> 00:37:08,470 and you're going to you squeeze that 1098 00:37:16,630 --> 00:37:10,480 bottle and watch what happens you don't 1099 00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:45,510 just soaks it up 1100 00:37:58,550 --> 00:37:47,349 how much of that is orbiting how much of 1101 00:37:58,560 --> 00:38:05,589 the pyramids of egypt